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	<title>Comments on: ZA Bear Run Two</title>
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		<title>By: Adrenis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrenis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Valdesta: The ZA runs that I do are nearly always with the same people. My Horde guild is part of a three-guild alliance that gets people together to do runs like this. My server, Shandris, is not quite progressed enough to do PUG ZA runs. 

Your comment that the well geared people you PUG it with don't perform to the level of their gear is interesting. It's probably combination of what you mention - bad players and eBay - but running an instance like ZA with a PUG would be difficult, I think. Having to learn the group dynamics on the fly would definitely make things harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Valdesta: The ZA runs that I do are nearly always with the same people. My Horde guild is part of a three-guild alliance that gets people together to do runs like this. My server, Shandris, is not quite progressed enough to do PUG ZA runs. </p>
<p>Your comment that the well geared people you PUG it with don&#8217;t perform to the level of their gear is interesting. It&#8217;s probably combination of what you mention - bad players and eBay - but running an instance like ZA with a PUG would be difficult, I think. Having to learn the group dynamics on the fly would definitely make things harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Valdesta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valdesta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZA timed runs are certainly interesting - I've been getting into more and more of them now that we have a Pally guildmate who is running it almost every time it resets and is knowledgable enough to lead it without it being annoying ;)

Some of our runs, since they're largely PUGs from the LFG tool, have had some players that are geared like they've been in this instance and beyond, but don't do the damage or healing or whatever they're supposed to do like one would expect with that level of gear.   I know there's terribad players who keep guild hopping and getting gear upgrades in 25 man raids etc but I wonder... how many of those players are actually eBay'd characters transferred to our server?

Have you had that problem, or do you run mostly with your guild for ZA?

Valdesta
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZA timed runs are certainly interesting - I&#8217;ve been getting into more and more of them now that we have a Pally guildmate who is running it almost every time it resets and is knowledgable enough to lead it without it being annoying <img src='http://drainingsouls.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Some of our runs, since they&#8217;re largely PUGs from the LFG tool, have had some players that are geared like they&#8217;ve been in this instance and beyond, but don&#8217;t do the damage or healing or whatever they&#8217;re supposed to do like one would expect with that level of gear.   I know there&#8217;s terribad players who keep guild hopping and getting gear upgrades in 25 man raids etc but I wonder&#8230; how many of those players are actually eBay&#8217;d characters transferred to our server?</p>
<p>Have you had that problem, or do you run mostly with your guild for ZA?</p>
<p>Valdesta<br />
<a href="http://wowgrrl.com" rel="nofollow">http://wowgrrl.com</a> - my player blog</p>
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